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#1 pumpkin spice

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 04:25 PM

Are you making challah this week and sticking a key in it and/or shaping it into a key?

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 04:49 PM

No, I'm using rolls which say on them "Ask rabbi about lechem mishne". Whatever that means.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 04:55 PM

I don't make challah
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 04:55 PM

I was gonna, but then I decided its not worth the risk, in the off-chance that Judaism is actually true....
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 05:07 PM

No, I'm using rolls which say on them "Ask rabbi about lechem mishne". Whatever that means.

You may not be able to cut them on Shabbos if they have words on them.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 05:14 PM

Yes I am.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 05:15 PM

You may not be able to cut them on Shabbos if they have words on them.


no, they're mini rolls. some of them are stuck together.

they always sold them and people made hamotzi on them. but more recently they have these stickers on.

Are you making challah this week and sticking a key in it and/or shaping it into a key?


your husband is letting you even entertain the idea of it?!

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 05:19 PM

No, I'm using rolls which say on them "Ask rabbi about lechem mishne". Whatever that means.

lol! rosendorff!! i wondered why they say that - they're definitely big enough


your husband is letting you even entertain the idea of it?!

no :bigcry:
i'm not allowed to play the cool kids christian minhagim :(

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 05:23 PM

yes :)

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 05:49 PM

no :bigcry:
i'm not allowed to play the cool kids christian minhagim :(

All the other kids with the bread-wrapped keys better run, better run... :guitar:
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 06:12 PM

No, I'm using rolls which say on them "Ask rabbi about lechem mishne". Whatever that means.

I think it has to do with the fact that they may not be "shaleim" when you disconnect them.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 06:32 PM

i wanted to join the group of women baking it tonight, but they are starting (and will finish) way too late for my daughter not be sleeping and getting up tomorrow on time :(

they always sold them and people made hamotzi on them. but more recently they have these stickers on.


ha! and everyone says Brooklyn is the most frum area :P

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:59 PM

I'm out for meals, but if I was making challah it would neither contain a key nor look like one.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 02:58 AM

I'd never heard of this minhag till my kids got married and adopted it, but even so, my Litvak husband doesn't want me to join in with it.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 03:54 AM

where did this minhag origionate anyway?

And yes, I know, all such holy minhagim originated with Moshe on Har Sinai.

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doubt not through the ages one increasing purpose runs, and the thoughts of men are widened with the process of the suns.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 05:03 AM

where did this minhag origionate anyway?


Easter cross breads apparently.
http://www.mesora.org/Shlissel.html


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Posted 20 April 2012 - 08:21 AM

I think it has to do with the fact that they may not be "shaleim" when you disconnect them.


Yes. I'm sure this is the issue. But what exactly is the issue, and why do I need to ask now but not before?

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 08:32 AM

Thanks Post, this thread reminded us to put keys on our challah.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 08:37 AM

Easter cross breads apparently.
http://www.mesora.org/Shlissel.html

Some comments in a blog where the above was mention

- There is a pernicious element, a group combined of academics (both real and self-titled) and those with a personal grudge against Ashkenazi, Eastern-European Jewish customs (and even more so Chasidic customs).

- Seems to me that like so many sepharadim, Alfassa is merely attempting to insinuate that Ashkenazi minhagim have no validity and that somehow the Sepharadic tradition is “purer” and more “authentic”

Also, a warning that keys may contain lead.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 08:48 AM

Yes, of course. So where do those critics think that the custom came from?

הַתְקַשֵּׁר מַעֲדַנּוֹת כִּימָה אוֹ-מֹשְׁכוֹת כְּסִיל תְּפַתֵּחַ

doubt not through the ages one increasing purpose runs, and the thoughts of men are widened with the process of the suns.




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