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#1 warren

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 09:15 AM

I decided to continue the thread by the same name from the other place (btw, does anyone else find that when they google a title from there, they get redirected to an "online pharmacy"?) with this gem from Lazer Brody, The Message of Two Horrific Tragedies.  There were two accidents (both possibly cases of negligence) this week in Jerusalem leading to a number of deaths, in one a gas tank exploded, in another pesticides not allowed for residential use were used in an apartment.

 

Undoubtedly, these righteous families are public sacrifices to mitigate the mountain of stern judgments that faces us.

 

Let's connect the spiritual dots: Both tragedies resulted from gas. Both happened in Jerusalem, and within one week. What is Hashem telling us?

 

Israel has been very concerned about chemical (gas) attacks from Syria and Hizbolla. Depending on military prowess and the so-called upper hand of the IDF, our leaders think they have nothing to fear. And, rather than fighting our enemies, they have been appeasing them so terribly that they are about to carve up Jerusalem, giving King David's holy tomb to the Pope and the Temple Mount to the Fatah.

 

1. Hashem wants us to assess ourselves and do immediate teshuva.

2. He is showing us that it's not gas attacks from Iran, Syria and Hizbulla that was must fear, but Him.

3. Jerusalem is Hashem's - it's not for sale.


Meanwhile, Tomer Devorah "Tragedies" : It Has Begun doesn't have any reasons, but notes that the person who distributes the autistic prophet bullshit recently said "...More and more tragedies, huge enormous tragedies, are on the way until you wake up."


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#2 warren

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 06:28 AM

Tomer Devorah Discussion with Moishela: "These Tragedies are Divinely Sent"

 

You think you're so Frum. Some Yidden are Frum, but the ones that consider themselves Erlich, Erliche Yidden, not all of you are Frum. Maybe you keep Shabbos the way you're supposed to, that’s also not so sure. Maybe you keep Kosher the way you're supposed to, that’s also not absolute. But you're not Frum, you think you're Frum, but you're not.

 

Hashem is making the world so much more terrifying than it ever was. We thought that the holocaust was the most terrifying thing that could have been, however we see a holocaust every single day in the world.

 

How many women go skiing? Many! Many so-called Frum boys don’t want a girl that doesn’t know how to ski.


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#3 warren

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 05:35 AM

More reasons, from here

 

Av Beit Din Weiss - going to secular court

Some guy with a loudspeaker on his car - iPhones in pockets (warning - auto-play)

Neturei Karta (the headline says Sikrikim) - Zionism and desecrating graves.  There was also a rumor in the first article that intention was a particular court case about to graves, also a denial of the rumor.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 11:03 AM

What do you gain from this other than high blood pressure?



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 11:14 AM

What do you gain from this other than high blood pressure?

 

Raising other people's blood pressure.


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Posted 30 January 2014 - 12:19 PM

Tomer Devorah posted a list of recent accidents, that "could have had much worse outcomes"..  Chodesh Tov!  The reason they happened is that Moshiach is on the way, and the reason they weren't worse, is "someone did teshuva"

 

Three Buildings Nearly Implode in Bat Yam
Serious Accident Involving Bnei Torah
Two-year-old Severely Injured in Fall on Mt. Gerizim
Sderot: Two Youngsters Electrocuted; in Fair Condition
Jewish Girl Abducted by Arabs in Broad Daylight, Escapes


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:20 PM

People are idiots, and connect things that don't connect. Wha'ts new?

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 03:04 PM

People are idiots, and connect things that don't connect. Wha'ts new?

 

I'm easily amused.


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Posted 26 February 2014 - 11:33 AM

קהילת חסידי ברסלב באומן: "רבי נחמן לא פראייר נשיא אוקראינה קיבל עונשו" (The Breslov community in Uman: Rabbi Nachman is no sucker, the president of Ukraine received his punishment)

 

The offense for which he was deposed (and 70+ civilians died) is charging money to visit Uman's biggest tourist attraction.  Good work, R Nachman.


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 06:59 AM

Yated says missle attacks in the south of Israel are retribution for the draft law passed yesterday.

 

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 10:53 AM

Yated says missle attacks in the south of Israel are retribution for the draft law passed yesterday.

 

 

 

Now we know that the hareidim prayed for Hashem to "Shfoch Hamatcha al HaGoyim...." 

 

So if someone gets hurt or killed by these missiles (and therefore their prayers) will they take responsibility for praying that other Jews die?


הַתְקַשֵּׁר מַעֲדַנּוֹת כִּימָה אוֹ-מֹשְׁכוֹת כְּסִיל תְּפַתֵּחַ

doubt not through the ages one increasing purpose runs, and the thoughts of men are widened with the process of the suns.

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 01:12 PM

Isn't the rain we're having a sign of God's approval?  Let's see, the gematria of טילים is 99, גשם is 343 ...


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 02:26 PM

maybe the rockets are b/c god disapproves of the anti-IDF hafganah.



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Posted 13 March 2014 - 02:59 PM

maybe the rockets are b/c god disapproves of the anti-IDF hafganah.

 

Or it could be punishment for the vote in Beit Shemesh the day before (or for people who ignored the instructions of the rabbis by either voting for the other guy or not voting).  Or the other two bills that passed the same day as the draft bill (one raised the election threshold from two seats to four (which would eliminate one of the parties in the coalition that only has two seats), another requires a referendum on land withdrawals unless 80 MKs vote for it, but you can read the last one as God doesn't like referendums, or God is upset at the mere possibility of a withdrawal.  Or maybe God didn't like the opposition absenting itself from the discussion and vote on these three bills.)


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 03:04 PM

When bad things happen and you don't know the reason, the gemarah says to assume bittul Torah. When was the last major bittul Torah event?

The two Chillul Hashem rallies.



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Posted 13 March 2014 - 03:46 PM

When bad things happen and you don't know the reason, the gemarah says to assume bittul Torah. When was the last major bittul Torah event?

The two Chillul Hashem rallies.

 

I don't know if the Beit Shemesh elections were a local bittul Torah event or that's how it looks every day.  I was there with some friends helping the Eli Cohen campaign and aside from people doing something related to the election, there were an awful lot of people just hanging around.


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Posted 18 June 2014 - 11:11 AM

On The Jewish Worker blog, Yated Neeman - The boys were kidnapped because the draft law was passed.
 
That post linked to an article at Kikar Hashabbat which auto-plays a radio program, I didn't listen to it, but the article (Hebrew) says it's a debate between Rabbis Mordechai Blau and Yuval Sherlow.  That article linked to a copy of the editorial (again in Hebrew), by Yated assistant editor R Yisrael Friedman.
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Posted 18 June 2014 - 11:45 AM

Well, that's silly. It's obviously a message for us to spend more time on Torah study.

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 12:42 PM

My chavrusa told me about this this morning, and I almost lost it. Assigning blame for a tragedy that already occurred is odious enough; taking a currently ongoing crisis and making it about you is completely inexcusable.
" All my life I have tried to pluck a thistle and plant a flower wherever the flower would grow in thought and mind."

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 04:34 PM

For those who can't (or don't have time to) read the Hebrew original, VIN translated a few lines of the Yated editorial into English.


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